God Chose The Seed Law

God chose the seed law.. meaning every seed would produce after its own kind.  The key here is : reproduce.

Kind after kind.  A seed in the ground brings forth many more seeds.

Jesus in the ground brings forth many more seeds. 

Was it the death,  or was it the many seed later.. that was more important? 

Jesus died and rose.. so did Lazarus and others. 

There was a difference. 

Why did Jesus die?  Why not just forgive everyone and move on?  Why all the drama of dying?  No one else dies because of their sins.. they just die. Adam never died for 900 years.. but that was old age. 

This gets down to the grit.

The disciples knew that was the Jewish God Elohim inside of Jesus.. by revelation.

Israel before Jesus was clear on what they believed :

"Deuteronomy (6:4): "Hear Israel, the LORD is our God, the LORD is one." Judaism teaches that it is heretical for any man to to be God, part of God, or the literal son of God." wiki 

 "Judaism sees the worship of a person as a form of idolaty, which is forbidden. Therefore, considering Jesus divine, as “God the Son”, is forbidden. 

Judaism's rejection of Jesus as the Messiah is based on Jewish eschatology, which holds that the coming of the true Messiah will be associated with events that have not yet occurred, such as the rebuilding of The Temple, a Messianic Age of peace, and the ingathering of Jews to their homeland." wiki

Who will the Messiah be to Israel? 

"In Abrahamic religions, a messiah or messias (Hebrew: מָשִׁיחַ, romanized: māšīaḥ; Greek: μεσσίας, messías; Arabic: مسيح, masīḥ; lit. 'the anointed one') is a saviour or liberator of a group of people. 

The concepts of mashiach, messianism, and of a Messianic Age originated in Judaism, and in the Hebrew Bible, in which a mashiach is a king or High Priest traditionally anointed with holy anointing oil." wiki

In Judaism "'King Messiah'), is the Jewish leader, physically descended from the paternal Davidic line through King David and King Solomon. 

He will accomplish predetermined things in a future arrival, including the unification of the tribes of Israel, the gathering of all Jews to Eretz Israel, the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem, the ushering in of a Messianic Age of global universal peace, and the annunciation of the world to come." wiki

To the Jews, Yeshua did not do this. 

Scripture reasons for the Jews :

🔹️Judaism affirms that Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies by ushering in an era of universal peace (Isaiah 2:4), 

🔹️building the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26–28), 

🔹️and gathering all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5–6).[14] 

🔹️Judaism deems the worship of any person a form of idolatry, rejecting the claims that Jesus was divine, an intermediary to God, or part of a Trinity.

🔹️Jews believe the Messiah will be a direct (blood) descendant of King David through Solomon on his father's side and will be born naturally to a husband and wife (Genesis 49:10, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, 33:17; Ezekiel 34:23–24).

What do Jews think about the idea of Jesus dying? :

"In the Jewish perspective, it is believed that the way Christians see Jesus goes against monotheism, a belief in the absolute unity and singularity of God, which is central to Judaism; Judaism sees the worship of a person as a form of idolatry, which is forbidden." wiki

"Maimonides' 13 principles of faith includes the concept that God has no body and that physical concepts do not apply to him. In the "Yigdal" prayer, found towards the beginning of the Jewish prayer books used in synagogues around the world, it states "He has no semblance of a body nor is He corporeal". It is a central tenet of Judaism that God does not have any physical characteristics;[14] that God's essence cannot be fathomed." wiki

"Judaism's idea of the messiah differs substantially from the Christian idea of the Messiah. In orthodox Rabbinic Judaism the messiah's task is to bring in the Messianic Age, a one-time event, and a presumed messiah who is killed before completing the task (i.e. compelling all of Israel to walk in the way of Torah, repairing the breaches in observance, fighting the wars of God, building the Temple in its place, gathering in the dispersed exiles of Israel) is not the messiah." wiki

➡️ So who is correct? 

"Maimonides, in his Mishneh Torah, describes Jesus as the failed messiah foreseen by the prophet Daniel. Rather than redeeming Israel, Maimonides writes, Jesus caused Jews to be killed and exiled, changed the Torah and led the world to worship a false God." Myjewishlearning com

"Jewish views on resurrection vary, but many Jews believe in a physical resurrection of the body during the Messianic Age when the good will rise from the dead. This belief is supported by the Old Testament, which mentions resurrection in Ezekiel 37, Isaiah 26, and Daniel 12. Jewish literature written after Jesus also considers resurrection to be an essential tenet of faith." Google ai

"As the Jewish historian Josephus records, the Pharisees taught that the righteous “shall have power to revive and live again,”3 whereas the Sadducees believed that “souls die with the bodies.”4 Jesus and His earliest disciples encountered such beliefs." churchofjesuschrist org

"Resurrection of the dead — t’chiyat hameitim in Hebrew — is a core doctrine of traditional Jewish theology. Traditional Jews believe that during the Messianic Age, the temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem, the Jewish people ingathered from the far corners of the earth and the bodies of the dead will be brought back to life and reunited with their souls. It is not entirely clear whether only Jews, or all people, are expected to be resurrected at this time.

.. The doctrine of resurrection has proved controversial throughout Jewish history." myjewishlearning com

"Many in Jesus’s time did not subscribe to the notion of an afterlife but believed that the dead merely cease to exist. Of those who did believe in life after death, some thought that only the spirit survived and viewed the afterlife as a shadowy realm to which all people would go regardless of their mortal deeds. This realm was referred to by various names, including Sheol, Gehenna, and Hades." 

"What distinguished Christian teaching about resurrection was the belief that resurrection is made possible through Jesus Christ and that He is the first of many to be resurrected, the “firstfruits of them that slept” (1 Corinthians 15:20)."

"Apart from Christians and Jews, the only other ancient people to believe in a bodily resurrection were the Zoroastrians of Persia." Ferguson, Backgrounds of Early Christianity, 250 .. churchofjesuschrist org

"Ancient Middle Eastern religious thought provided a background for belief in the resurrection of a divine being (e.g., the Babylonian vegetation god Tammuz), ➡️ but belief in personal resurrection of humans was unknown. In Greco-Roman religious thought there was a belief in the immortality of the soul, but not in the resurrection of the body. Symbolic resurrection, or rebirth of the spirit, occurred in the Hellenistic mystery religions, such as the religion of the goddess Isis, but postmortem corporeal resurrection was not recognized."

"Islam also teaches a doctrine of the resurrection. First, at Doomsday, all men will die and then be raised from the dead. Second, each person will be judged according to the record of his life that is kept in two books, one listing the good deeds, the other the evil deeds. After the Judgment the unbelievers will be placed in hell and the faithful Muslims will go to paradise, a place of happiness and bliss."

"Zoroastrianism (ancient pre-Islamic religion of Iran that survives there in isolated areas and, more prosperously, in India,) holds a belief in a final overthrow of Evil, a general resurrection, a Last Judgment, and the restoration of a cleansed world to the righteous." Britannica 

Resurrection is mostly the Abrahamic religions belief. It is debated by Jews. It is the key component of Christianity. 

So.. did Yeshua have to die? What was the point? 

A person cannot resurrect unless that person dies first. 

We are getting closer to our question : Did God have to die? 

This is what I believe..  comma,

T.H.Tatman

GodComma.com 

Tbc..

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