Apostolic Fathers : Apostolic Faith

Apostolic Fathers : Apostolic Faith. We here these used often.

Who are the apostolic fathers? They are NOT the fathers that are often spoke about that came around hundreds of years later. Even wiki calls these 'later fathers' apostolic. "The Apostolic Fathers were Christian theologians who lived in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD, who are believed to have personally known some of the Twelve Apostles, or to have been significantly influenced by them."  That is kind of like calling me a George Washington father.  Anyway..

"No, the writings of the Apostolic Fathers are not part of the Bible, but they are considered valuable Christian literature. The Apostolic Fathers were early Christian leaders who wrote letters and documents in Greek to other believers." GoogleAI
"No, the term "Apostolic Fathers" is not used in the Bible, but it is used to describe a group of early Christian leaders and authors. The term originated in the 17th century." GoogleAI

So, once again we got stuck with a phrase. Usually when we get a new phrase we tend to then build around it until we have the tower we like.

I personally like to go back the the original.

This takes me back to the day of Pentecost. There were 11 Disciples of Jesus and around 109 other people in the 'UpperRoom' that received the first outpouring of the GodSpirit to where they could clearly say, "Christ in you the hope of glory."

So, we have around 120 people come out as Joel's prophecy is starting its fulfillment. "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:" Joel 2:28 KJV Bible

As an interesting subnote : When the Jews returned to Israel from Babylon, the ruling body was called the Men of the Great Assembly. This assembly had 120 members who were the sages and elders of the Jewish people.
"Traditionally included such figures as Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi, Ezra, Nehemiah, Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, Azariah, Mordechai and Zerubbabel." wiki

So, the Upper Room were the Template of the 'Church'. There was no New Testament, except by their own lives being lived. Whatever they believed, is the good news.

In one spot, Matthew 28, it is written that Jesus said,
"18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Matthew 28:18-20

So, the 11 Disciples didn't have a New Testament per se, but they had what Jesus taught them.
BUT.. it would only be brought to their remembrance after Pentecost arrived and the Spirit of God, Jesus, was INSIDE them. John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you."
"“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26

So, if we are talking Apostolic Faith or Apostolic Fathers, I believe this is the group we should be focused on. 

So, what is the "Apostolic Faith"?
GoogleAI says "Apostolic faith is the faith that was taught by the apostles of the New Testament. It refers to the doctrines and practices of the Early Church."

Is the term "apostolic fathers" used in the Bible?
"No, the term "Apostolic Fathers" is not used in the Bible, but it is used to describe a group of early Christian leaders and authors. The term originated in the 17th century" GoogleAI 

This is interesting.
Neither terms is a Bible term. So maybe we should just scoot the two phrases aside for a moment and simply (my favorite word) go back to the day of Pentecost. What did THEY believe?

Paul didn't exist yet. So Paul cannot be our Template. Our Template has to be the day of Pentecost and especially the 11 Disciples of Jesus Christ. Paul came later and tried to get the gentiles with zero knowledge of God to put there focus back.. to the day of Pentecost. 

And as I repeat often : What did they believe at Pentecost?
1. God exists.
2. God is one God.
3. God was in Jesus.
4. Jesus died and resurrected, proving numbers 1, 2, and 3.
5. Jesus ascended away.
6. Jesus came back as the licks of fire on the day of Pentecost.
7. Jesus the Teacher then went inside the 'Believers'. 

And they were all Jews.

We don't clearly know who the other 109 were other than Matthias most likely. 

When Peter came out, the rock, rock meaning revelation, and the Called Out Ones (Church) would be built on revelation, and God is the only one to give revelation to each person, ... Peter spoke. And the work began because 3000 believed him and immersed themselves in the name of Jesus Christ, who is the one Lord. And none of them had the HolySpiritGod in them yet. No, I would not want that job. It would have been like popcorn. Some good, some bad, some just trouble.

Did the Jews suffer because they killed Jesus? Not really. They suffered because they killed the followers of Jesus on and after the day of Pentecost. Matthew 12:31-32: "I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men." 
The "Holy Ghost" had come into people according to the Prophet Joel, and the Jews began to kill them off as quickly as possible. Within 35+ years the Jews would be killing each other inside Jerusalem and even eating a baby or more as General Titus surrounded the city in absolute repulsive awe of what the Jews were doing to themselves.

If I am being pointed back to the "fathers" of Pentecost, then it is essential that I believe as they did on that day.
Why? Because THAT was and is THE GOOD NEWS which we call the GOSPEL.

 

This is what I believe.. comma,
T.H.Tatman
GodComma.com

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