Christianity Has A Problem

All christiandom talks about Israel meeting Jesus as the Messiah.

Problem is .. Israel needs a template. And most Christian systems believe in the trinity - a concept the Jews will never believe.

The Jews had 4000 years - before Jesus - for God to teach them He is a trinity.
But guess what? God didn't.
It's just not there in their Hebrew Bible, or the Torah, or the Prophets, or John the Baptist, or...

God didn't lie or trick or deceive or hide anything from Israel when it came to understanding Elohim of Genesis 1:1, or JHVH, or Adonai .. all different 'names' for the same one and only God.

God definitely didn't punish them because they were ignorant that Constantine's trinity was actually the truth. Silly..

The closest template Israel has to true Christianity is the days of Jesus and Pentecost.
Everyone in the upper room understood Elohim as One.
Then they suddenly learned that Elohim was now inside 120 people.
However, the Jews of 2025 don't understand that truth from Pentecost. Actually no human can unless God reveals it to them. God has rigged it that way. 

If we look at Revelation (of Jesus Christ), chapter 11, we read this : "Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."
"Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry [because they killed them], and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11:11 ¶ And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them."

Uh oh. These two witnesses are killed in Israel and then raise back to life and then rapture into Heaven.

"Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them."

It has been said that the ones who truly support, listen, and are positioned back (positionally placed) into their proper tribe, are these : "Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."
It goes on to say there are 12,000 from each of the twelve tribes. 12,000x12=144,000. 

Right now in Israel no one knows what their original tribe is. It is a small number that can trace their heritage back to their God ordained Tribe. Not even DNA assists. Interestingly, the Tribe of Levi is one of the only ones who has some kind of DNA connection.
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/679454/jewish/How-Can-I-Find-Out-Which-Hebrew-Tribe-Im-From.htm

The 144,000 are in their tribal order. Vengeance has always been the Jewish desire. Gentiles are taught forgiveness but the Jews under the altar are still crying for vengeance. Then they see Jesus and are bewildered by the wounds in His Hands. Then their eyes are opened that Yeshua is the Messiah. And the 144,000 tribal Jews accept Jesus Christ. Scriptures:

Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? [Vengeance shows that it is Jews]
Zec 13:6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.
Romans 11:25-27, Paul wrote:  the partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, “The Deliverer will come from Zion, He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.  This is My covenant with them, when I take away their sins.”

Now... these Jews then look backwards towards the Gentiles to see if they can find the Template which verifies the Messiah and what He has been doing since around 33AD.
Which Christians are the Template? 
This is a big question.
Who represents God?
The God of Israel?
The One God?
True God?
Elohim?

Christianity has a problem.

How do the Jews understand 'God' and how do they perceive the 'Messiah'?

Who is God to the Jew as taught by God to the Jews?
"In Judaism, God is perceived as a single, all-powerful, omnipresent, and omniscient creator who is completely unique and beyond human comprehension, with no physical form or representation allowed; essentially, God is considered the absolute one, completely transcendent yet also intimately involved in the lives of his people, as outlined in the Torah, the central religious text for Jews." GoogleAI

Read that carefully.

Any trinity in there?

How do Jews understand the 'Messiah'?
"In Judaism, the Messiah, also called "Mashiach" in Hebrew, is perceived as a future Jewish king descended from King David who will bring about a time of peace and righteousness by gathering all Jews back to Israel, rebuilding the Temple, and establishing a just political system; essentially, a human leader with extraordinary abilities sent by God to usher in a golden age for the Jewish people." GoogleAI

These are accurate answers.

This makes a dilemma. The Jews know how to study their Hebrew Bible. So if they go back to what is called the "New Testament", they are going to notice :
1. That Peter and Paul and Cornelius all taught baptism the same.
2. No one taught a trinity baptism.
3. If what Jesus said is the proper way, then everyone else in the New Testament did not obey.
With that, they would lose all confidence in the "truth" that Jesus is the Messiah .. AND/OR.. they would decide that most of the Gentiles were not a part of the Messiah's Kingdom that was just revealed to the 144,000.  Either way, they will look at the gentiles in a very bewildered manner. 

Christianity has a problem.  The majority of christiandom is and will be heathen to the Jews. "How have these gentiles made such a mess about Elohim?" And.. "Elohim clearly told us how we should understand there is but one G-d. It is obvious that Elohim created a human like Adam and then got inside that human, making him the Messiah. And now by experience we can understand that the same Elohim entered into many humans on the day of Pentecost, and now in us 144,000. Why do the gentiles take something that is so simple and cause 2000 years of chaos?"

This brings us to the early 1900s. No, this isn't a blog to promote the early Pentecostal revival which morphed into the pentecostals.  

However, around 1914, amidst the end of the revival, after the manifestation of the Biblical Gifts true and also the counterfeits, - someone looked at the Bible and something came alive.  Just like Martin Luther who suddenly saw "the just shall live by faith", which only God could quicken alive to him, - someone looked at Acts 2 and saw what Peter said was the absolute truth, and Paul seconded the motion.

The father, son, and holy ghost concepts was so embedded into the church, that Acts 2 was looked upon as blasphemous and some saw the believers as heretics. Ouch.  This is history. 

But no one could deny that NO ONE in the Bible ever baptized in a trinitarian fashion.  They saw that the NAME that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 28:19 as ... you  might say His last riddle ... was/is Jesus Christ Acts 2:38 or Lord Jesus Acts 8:16 (the english version of the actual name)..
or  Lord Jesus Christ = Elohim YeshuaGodSalvation MessiahInFlesh

Ask about the trinity and there are multiple answers and explanations and for many that simply say "It's a mystery".
Ask about the day of Pentecost and the answer is simple. No debate. No theological hip hop. 

So, if the 144,000 look at the gentiles in 2025+, just ahead, when these Scriptures in Revelation are fulfilled.. who will they look towards amongst the gentiles to see that matches their revelation? The two hands have to be in harmony or someone is very wrong. 

Israel, the true Israel of God loving Jews, are not dumb. They know their Torah. They can wrap loops around most gentiles when discussing the Hebrew Bible. 

Christianity has a problem. The trinity understanding has no feet to stand on. Since God is building a 'body' to complete the 'head', they must match or they cannot stand.  This is not a frankenstine. This Head and Body will fit and LIVE as a single full group. Jesus Christ is the Head with the fullness of Elohim as the Power (or brain). All the true Believers are the Body attached to this Head that receive their strength and guidance from the Head.  And there is no scar on the neck of this attachement. It has no blemish. 

Find who believes in Peter and Paul's way of understanding, and you'll be quite possibly at the ones who will be the matching template that will solidify the 144,000 into the Kingdom of the God of Israel.

When researching, it bewilders me how few baptize as Peter and Paul spoke.
And those who do it without turning it into a systematic denomination with all sorts of additives and subtractions.

Unfortunately gentiles tend to grab a concept and go wild.
In 1914'ish it was simple.. "Wait, Peter and Paul and everyone did it this way. We should too."

Then that evolved into intellectual law, into 'Jesus Only', into One Pentecostalism.. the Jews will shake their head back and forth. "Why can't these gentiles understand Elohim first?"

Work in progress..

 This is what I believe.. comma,
T.H.Tatman
GodComma.com

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